Saturday, October 23, 2010

Raw Milk Controversy

I had planned on a completely different blog post for today; that was until I saw this morning's local newspaper with the following story. I will let you read it first and I'll put in my 2 cents worth after....

Milk battle on between owners, Northern Health
October 22, 2010

Bernice Trick
Citizen staff

A group of milk-cow owners in Hixon is fighting Northern Health for the right to consume the milk they produce, despite it being unpasteurized.

Lesley McConnachie, owner of Hunny Do Ranch, where the milking cows are kept and cared for said, "Northern Health has ordered the members of the group to cease and desist the practice of packaging and distributing the raw milk to the members."

McConnachie has letters from George Abbot, when he was minister of health services, and an official in the Attorney General's department, saying the province's Milk Industry Act does not prevent consumption of milk by owners of cows, or anyone who has direct care and control of a milk cow.

"When we showed the letters to Northern Health, they just said "Those people are not our boss."

"In the two years we've been doing this, no one (in the co-operative) has become sick, and besides that, it's not exactly a spreadable disease," said McConnachie, who sees Northern Health officials "as big bullies".

Gred Thibault, NH manager of public health protection, showed much concern for the Hixon people who are consuming raw milk.

"We know the risk of unpasteurized milk to contain illness-casuing bacteria is very high," said Thibault, citing food poisoning and salmonella as common illnesses caused by raw milk.

"In farm-animal environment, you'll also find ecoli, parasites and crytoporidium that cause people to become very ill, ususally with cramps and diarrhea," said Thibault, adding those who seem to at most risk are young children, pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems.

"It's true that not every squirt of milk will be contaminated, but as a health inspector for 24 years, I can pretty well guarantee if you go from drinking store-bought milk to raw farm milk, you will become severely ill within a month to three months.

"I've got the follow-up data from my field experience that shows individuals drinking raw milk will become sick.

"They may call it the flu or something else, but I've been able to trace it back in many, many cases to unpasteurized milk.

Recognizing the problem, in the early '90s the federal goverment brought in legislation requiring pasteurization of all milk products."

He added that "studies show there is no added benefit for pasteurized or unpasteurized milk, but the potential for illness is greatly increased with unpasteurized milk."

He says the Hixon group is good at creating loopholes to continue marketing milk products like butter, and suffice to say that an inspection visit to the ranch milking barn did not score well with NH environment officials.

McConnachie is baffled why the officials care if members consume milk from their own cows.

"It's pretty well known that people consume what they want - alcohol, tobacco, raw sushi, spinach - and nobody says a word about that. I just want Northern Health to leave our members alone," said McConnachie.

"This all started with one cow, and it just grew from there. Today we have eight milking cows," said McConnachie who provides the pasture for grazing, and is ultimately responsible for the milking, distribution and daily care of the animals.

But the share mambers are in contact with the ranch and their own cows, often helping with the feeding, watering and the clean up, said McConnachie.

Now for my comments:

First off I want to say that we are not part of the Hunny Do Ranch cowshare members, nor do we currently drink raw milk, though we did investigate the program about a year ago and completely agree with the health benefits of drinking raw milk.. Both husband and I grew up in environments in which we did drink raw cow or goats milk at various times during our childhood and teenage years.

We as individuals need to begin thinking for ourselves, and not believe everything presented by the various milk marketing boards and milk producer associations (remember this is a business and no one wants to lose potential revenue). They are taking away our individual choices and freedoms by outlawing the sale of raw milk.

Milk has been drunk by humans for millennia and I fail to believe that it is unhealthy unless pasteurized (pasteurization has only been around since 1864 so isn't is amazing that the human animal is still alive considering raw milk has been drunk for centuries before this discovery?). This is a natural food which is illegal in Canada and many other countries, yet the governments condone 'fake' foods full of chemicals, fillers, flavourings, colourings, preservatives etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I also have to wonder why Northern Health is all of a sudden so concerned about a few people in the area drinking raw milk, when the general public purchases and consumes a variety or products from grocery stores that have been recalled by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, yet unless you actually go onto their website the public usually doesn't hear about the recalls. Perhaps Northern Health should put their efforts into warning the general population at large about foods that could be harmful to those that unknowingly purchase those products.

I personally believe that raw milk is very healthy due to the enzymes and healthy bacteria that are present and not destroyed by pasteurization. We live in a society in which everything is so sanitized and sterilized that our bodies can no longer cope with, and fight off various diseases... eat a little dirt - its good for you ;) I feel this is why, according to the above article, the inspector is finding that some people become ill after consuming raw milk - they are getting diarrhea because their bodies are not accustomed to to the various enzymes/good bacterias that humans should be ingesting. Obviously milk must be gathered and produced in a clean environment from cows and goats that have been kept in good conditions with proper nutrition so as not to be contaminated by e-coli or bad bacterias.

I noticed one glaring mistake in the article as follows "the federal government brought in legislation requiring pasteurization of all milk products". This is not true, as in Canada we are able to produce and purchase raw milk cheeses. From the Health Canada website: "Raw milk cheese is made from raw milk. While raw milk is not allowed to be sold in Canada, raw milk cheese is allowed for sale. This is because the way raw milk cheeses are manufactured and produced helps eliminate any harmful bacteria that may be present in raw milk. "

The article in the newspaper has really infuriated me, and husband and I have been discussing writing a letter to the editor in support of the cowshare program and Hunny Do Ranch. I am going to investigate the feasibility of obtaining a cow for milk and see if the cost and time involved would be something that we could handle. Perhaps Northern Health has pushed us into it... let them try to ban me from drinking milk from our own cow!

For more information about raw milk and to make your own informed decisions, you can google 'raw milk' and come up with various websites with pros and cons.

I would also recommend listening to the Darcy's podcast from Stumbling Homestead who just happened to post a raw milk podcast this morning (wow, what great timing!)

And here are some other websites:


Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund


Joanne said...

This is just so frustrating!!! So many words come to mind when trying to describe the incredible stupidity of that public health official. Get your facts straight Mister! People have been drinking raw milk for centuries ...what a ridiculous thing to assert that you will undoubtedly be ill within a few months of drinking it! Argh!! And yet we can go on eating all that chemical laden, highly processed food products without anyone raising an eyebrow. I will definitely post that article on my site too. Thanks for posting it.

Carpe Diem said...

Thanks Joanne, it would be great if you can post it to. I'm not sure if you are within the Northern Health catchment area, but I think every bit helps to get the word out.

It makes me angry that they want to take away our freedom of choice. Everything we do has some risk attached to it, but I would like to do that risk assessment myself and make my own descisions. If Northern Health is allowed to shut down the Hunny Do Ranch's cow share, when will they come knocking on my door and tell me I'm no longer allowed to can my own food, ferment my vegetables, or grow a garden? Goodness, all these things have risk of contamination attached to them (and veggies are even grown in the dirt!)

Anonymous said...

Too bad Northern Health was not more concened about the air quality here. We have the highest rate of respiratory problems in the province!! That would get more bang for the buck than harassing a few folks who just want to drink the milk from their own cows. They do it with full knowledge of the potential problems. I don't have any choice but to breath the air here.

Carpe Diem said...

Hi Anon, you are completely right -Northern Health should get their priorities straight. The air quality has been poor for a very, very long time without anyone doing anything about it. I'm lucky as don't live where it will affect my family's health.

Thanks for stopping by my blog. I think you have been here before. Feel free to comment any time!

frogholr said...

If you truly want to get your own milk cow I HIGHLY recommend checking out the following board:
Keeping A Family Cow. The people here are friendly, helpful, and there is none of the nastiness that one often sees on web groups. You can read to your heart's content about owning the kingpin of the family farm! I often joke about losing my pigs, beef cows, garden, chickens, turkeys, rabbits, etc., but we don't DARE make jokes about the milk-maker in the family! Our whole lives orbit around our cow and the wonderful, healthy things we can make with her delicious, RAW milk!

Carpe Diem said...

Hi Frogholr,

I have heard about the board through Stumbling Homestead's site and podcasts, but I haven't had a chance to check it out yet. I'm not sure Husband is in on the 'getting a cow' deal, but I truly am interested in investigating the possibilities. I think time make be the biggest issue for us, but I'll see.

Thanks for your comment!

Unknown said...

Hi Carpe Diem,

I am a member of cowshare near Vancouver.
Fraser Health are trying to shut down our operation first in 2008. we're about 2-3 year ahead. If Northern Health follow Fraser Health (highly likely), they will bring Hunny Do Ranch to the court. Tough reality is, to win our constitutional right, we need lots of $$$ to get a decent lawyer. In canada, we have our own Real Milk Legal Defence Fund. I assume Hunny Do Ranch need to join us if they haven't.

You can donate as much/small as you wish. Every ripple counts.

Charlotte's Web Farm said...

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Charlotte's Web Farm said...

Honey do is a member of the Canadian Family cow.
It seems that BC is hell bent on preventing people from consuming what they want.

JoAnn said...

It's so sad and frustrating that any government feels it their right to micro manage our choices. Drinking raw milk is a choice and that choice is being attacked here in the states as well.

Gayle said...

I grew up drinking raw milk from a local dairy farmer. When we moved into town and started drinking "store" milk, it took me a while to get used to it.

It seems to me that if the people drinking the milk know the facts, they have a right to drink it if they want to. If it is handled properly, the chances of the milk being bad isn't all that great.

Raw milk has virtues in that it separates to allow you to have cream for some uses and skim milk for drinking and cooking. That was always a bonus when I was a kid.

Granny Miller said...

Hate to be a turd in the punch bowl on this topic, but the consumption of raw milk is not without health risks.
And those risks are much more serious for the elderly and small children.
I keep hearing and reading anachronistic narrations about the history of raw milk that would do Jean-Jacques Rousseau proud.
Hate to break it to you - but Mother Nature isn't always harmless and she can be a real bitch sometimes.

It's my opinion,that unless you and your children actually live on a farm or you keep dairy animals and are constantly exposed to the various pathogens in the barn & soil- you probably shouldn't be drinking raw milk....
that is unless diarrhea and a belly ache isn't a problem for you.
And I don't care how clean the barn, milk house or the milking parlor is; and it makes no difference if the cows are "grass fed" or not.

For many, many years I drank raw milk. But I don't any longer unless I'm too lazy or too busy to pasteurize my milk.
You can still have cream top milk with pasteurized milk, you just avoid the risks.

Because of the overuse of antibiotics in the confined hog industry, there are really bad cooties out there now a days.
Those bugs and super bugs keep mutating all the time. That's their job.
Brucellosis/Bang's disease (undulant fever)in cattle or goats is rare - but very real; and Listeriosis is more common than you know.

It's not your grandma's raw milk any longer. Things have changed.
(And by the way raw milk wasn't 100% safe in grandma's day either. Children died from undulant fever all the time - not to mention TB)

All that said, I agree that there should be NO restrictions upon the sale of ANY type of agricultural product.
What you care to put into your body or into you children bodies is your business and not the government's.

I certainly don't advocate drinking nasty store bought milk. I just wish people wouldn't be such "True Believers" and use a little old time common sense.

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